![]() The thing is, that if we will find a guy, who was the main perpetrator he might tell that I am telling bs and in fact I was the agressor and I was claiming boxing is for loosers, sambo is great.Īnd you will never know who is telling the truth.īut what is certainly true, is that the coach didn't care and did let us decide this between ourselves.īut when he broadens the scope to include things like the "machine. PS When I was bullied, it happened because I switched from sambo to boxing and I was picked on largely because of that, because they had to prove that boxing is superior to sambo and it is for loosers(to put it mildly). The real question should be about the coaching staff and team administration. Right now, a lot of people go as far as to call Downie a racist(for stuff happened 15 years ago when he was a kid) mainly because this fits in their worldview, where hockey is filled with white supremacists and ethnic minority players have no personal agenda and can't be POS themselves. But I think if we're going to discuss what's wrong with this system and how to fix it we need to be identifying the right problem areas- and IMO some of the broad strokes statements and insinuations later in the article went beyond that.Īs an ex athlete who was both the "bully" and a victim of bullying I can tell you, that conflicts in teen sports are quite frequent, and Aliu maybe telling absolute truth or he maybe telling his "version". So when someone attacks the entirety of the normative structure as the cause for their difficulty and identifies it as "toxic", their ability to conform to the "good" norms becomes relevant and it distracts from the more important discussion when people feel the need to defend the good.Īnd yes- I get the irony in discussion about the source of the distraction further distracting the discussion. ![]() Those that are bad need to be eradicated (racism/ hazing), but at that same time many are good (or at worst benign). So while the career path is not in itself relevant, the source of conflict within that career is. It conflates the very real issue of discrimination and prejudice with the human reality of failing to meet behavioral expectations having consequences. grinding people down" there's a strong subtext that his status as an outsider on teams was 100% due to a combination of race and toxic culture, and that he was by many accounts a dick and bad teammate played no part in it. His career path is not relevant to that discussion at all.īut when he broadens the scope to include things like the "machine. That's a good point, and completely valid when purely discussing racism/ prejudice in the sport etc. But I wouldn't comply and they through me in jail for the night and robbed me anyway story complete with waterworks. His father wasn't the only one getting shaken down.assuming it's true and the guy wasn't out drinking and banging whores the night before and had to come up with a story how some corrupt cops tried to shake me down for bribe money because I was black. Especially back then when the country was bankrupt. Corrupt cops in the old Soviet Union/Russia were the norm. In response to the story, he told of his Father. ![]() If someone knocked my teeth out unprovoked I would respond in the same manner. To AA's credit, he had the balls to drop the gloves and fight back. While the things that happened to him are lousy he needs to understand that he wasn't necessarily singled out because he was black, he and the other rookies were singled out because they were rookies. But that's about it.īefore this article, I had never heard of this player. What can the NHL possibly do to change what is in a person's heart and mind? Honestly, there is NOTHING they can do to the fans which they desperately need. I have never been a fan of hazing or pranks that are meant to hurt or demean a person.Īnother thing that bothers me is that when a few people go after someone in a racist manner immediately everyone that isn't black or Hispanic is painted with the same brush as being racist. But for AA it's racist? Granted, if it's Downie leading the charge it's probably both. Assuming they were white the same thing was happening to them at the same time it's hazing. There were two other players been stripped naked and shoved in the bathroom on the bus too. What always bothers me about these pieces is that the person telling them always protrays themselves as the victim. He was a dirty player and for a bit successfully rehabbed his image to a degree by just playing hockey for a while. ![]() Steve Downie was always a piece of garbage.
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